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Gen 3 Rules have been published.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 2:40 pm
by GregCirillo
I'm sure there's a treasure trove of info in there, but among all that, minimum weight is 1,560 lbs. with cool suit tanks removed.

http://scca.cdn.racersites.com/prod/assets/SRF-SRF3%20Fastrack.pdf

Re: Gen 3 Rules have been published.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 3:43 pm
by Bill Parenteau
For anyone interested I weighed in at 1564 last weekend with around 2 gal still in the tank, frame 784, 225lb driver (excluding gear) and new spoke wheels with rear body with 4 or 5 pound extra fiberglass. It looks like a 225lb driver in this configuration should to meet 1560lb limit. With the new rockers you should be able to shave off some more weight.

Re: Gen 3 Rules have been published.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 9:35 am
by Bob Devol
Bill Parenteau wrote:For anyone interested I weighed in at 1564 last weekend with around 2 gal still in the tank, frame 784, 225lb driver (excluding gear) and new spoke wheels with rear body with 4 or 5 pound extra fiberglass. It looks like a 225lb driver in this configuration should to meet 1560lb limit. With the new rockers you should be able to shave off some more weight.



Somebody did their sums correctly here because 225 is the start point of non-ballast weight on a GEN2.

Re: Gen 3 Rules have been published.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:21 pm
by markfick
Feno and I will have to put on some weight for the Gen3! But not Walsh :D

Re: Gen 3 Rules have been published.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 12:08 pm
by bob gardner
There appears to be a conflict between the GCR rules published and the Gen 3 assembly manual. :o

GCR: "gg. SRF3 Oil Cooler, P/N G480503 may be used as mounted per the GEN3 Assembly Manual. No fan permitted."

GEN 3 Assembly Manual: "The 1.6 L will use a larger oil cooler and a new oil cooler fan assembly."

The assembly manual installs an oil cooler fan...which per the GCR section gg is not permitted. :?

Re: Gen 3 Rules have been published.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 12:17 pm
by Bill Parenteau
Bob - I believe that what you are referring to is in the Gen2 section of the rules. New oil cooler is optional with no fan for Gen2. The Gen3 section still references the fan. All rules apply to Gen3 the same as Gen2, unless modified by the Gen3 section.

Re: Gen 3 Rules have been published.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 5:12 pm
by bob gardner
Bill...unfortunately there is not anything in the Gen 3 exceptions section that says anything about oil cooler fans. Since the opening statement of the Gen 3 section says that "Cars must be converted per “SCCA Enterprises Conversion Manual” and it shall be used a reference standard for converted cars. SRF3 cars must comply with all current SRF rules and regulations in 9.1.8.C.1. except as follows." The assembly manual says to install a fan but the GCR says that a fan assembly is prohibited.

It is clear that the GCR needs to be corrected to either specifically state that fan assemblies on SRF2 is prohibited or call out the fan assembly in the exception section for the SRF3.

Re: Gen 3 Rules have been published.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 6:26 pm
by Bill Parenteau
Bob - I see your point. I was thinking that ""Cars must be converted per “SCCA Enterprises Conversion Manual” was enough, but I also agree that the fan and cooler was not mentioned in the exception requirement.
"gg. SRF3 Oil Cooler, P/N G480503 may be used as mounted per the GEN3 Assembly Manual. No fan permitted" does seem to cover it for SRF2 though.

Re: Gen 3 Rules have been published.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 6:41 pm
by breton
I believe the "Exceptions" noted reflect only those items not specifically outlined in the Assembly manual (e.g. the bodywork) as there are many more items that differ between SRF and Gen3 than covered in this section (e.g. location of the fire bottle). I think the rule, as described, is sufficiently clear.

Re: Gen 3 Rules have been published.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 10:10 pm
by thequick
the new 5th gear is spec-ed into the Gen 3.