SCCA-E Questionnaire on Gen 3 Weight

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2016 5:20 pm
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If you have a Gen 3 car, and you've got data on specific weights of your body sections, and your personal body, please fill out the survey at this link.

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/V387JB6

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2016 6:45 pm
Why is this survey for existing Gen3 only? Don't we want to get it "long term" correct and include those who want to convert? All of the items except 1 will be the same....

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 6:19 am
Seat choice should also be a consideration; butler/arp vs Fiberglass.
Some still run Shelby wheels, so if you are after a comprehensive picture of weights in play, wheel choice should also be reported.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 9:11 am
srcypher wrote:Seat choice should also be a consideration; butler/arp vs Fiberglass.
Some still run Shelby wheels, so if you are after a comprehensive picture of weights in play, wheel choice should also be reported.


Also, noting whether running new or old suspension rockers.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 1:40 pm
It sounds like someone is reviving the old "what weight we should run the Gen 3 class" question. Simple solution: Weigh your car with you in it, at home on your scales or at track. Determine fuel on board and subtract. That is the zero fuel weight of your car, with driver. It is immaterial what your body panels weigh, your weight or what wheel or control arms you run. The important issue is the as run weight of the car. That is assuming we want to re-open this can of worms.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 11:00 pm
tomkirchman wrote:Why is this survey for existing Gen3 only? Don't we want to get it "long term" correct and include those who want to convert? All of the items except 1 will be the same....


If we got weight reductions in Gen2, that might make split starts more tolerable since we'd be a little faster and not get hung out as quickly.

I know if I was 50 lbs lighter, I probably would not have gotten lapped at Fontana this year (coming out of the last turn on the last lap).

But alas, Gen2 old school so no caring. I'm feeling a little FV now, but there's still enough of us all playing by the same rules, so the only real benefit would be the deltas to the Gen3s if they are going to keep running us together.

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The only weight reduction item not available to the Gen 2 is the weight reduction of the engine conversion.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 11:36 am
My suspicion is that is coming up because of whining about the Gen 3 being too light, so asking about the weight of the body panels makes sense (as a defense to say people can make weight if they just have lower weight body panels). Hopefully, though, that will show that there's actually room to lower the weight at least another 20 lbs... :twisted:
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 12:44 pm
Reminder -- take the survey. My numbers suggest the car is pretty good for a husky dude.

Frame+Center+Welds: 1,231
Driver+ Gear: 234
Nose: 45
Tail: 36
Fuel: 0
Ballast: 10

Total: 1,556 lbs.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 4:52 pm
GregCirillo wrote:Reminder -- take the survey. My numbers suggest the car is pretty good for a husky dude.

Frame+Center+Welds: 1,231
Driver+ Gear: 234
Nose: 45
Tail: 36
Fuel: 0
Ballast: 10

Total: 1,556 lbs.


Mine is not near so nice, but has older rims, but I do not think that is nearly all the 60lb frame and cent er section compared to yours

Frame+Center+Shelby?: 1,288
Driver+ Gear: 221
Nose: 53
Tail: 51
Fuel: 0

Total: 1,1613 lbs.
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